[144178] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Do Not Complicate Routing Security with Voodoo Economics
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Neil J. McRae)
Sun Sep 4 13:24:45 2011
From: "Neil J. McRae" <neil@domino.org>
To: Jennifer Rexford <jrex@CS.Princeton.EDU>
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 17:21:07 +0000
In-Reply-To: <5B1F5300-3752-4028-80A4-65F3B8AB340E@cs.princeton.edu>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
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On 4 Sep 2011, at 16:45, "Jennifer Rexford" <jrex@CS.Princeton.EDU> wrote:
> Neil,
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> -- Jen
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Sep 4, 2011, at 11:32 AM, "Neil J. McRae" <neil@domino.org> wrote:
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>> Jen,
>> What operators are involved? And who represents them specifically?
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>> Neil.
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>> On 04/09/2011 16:07, "Jennifer Rexford" <jrex@CS.Princeton.EDU> wrote:
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>>> As one of the co-chairs of this working group, I'd like to chime in to
>>> clarify the purpose of this group. Our goal is to assemble a group of
>>> vendors and operators (not "publish or perish" academics) to discuss an=
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>>> recommend effective strategies for incremental deployment of security
>>> solutions for BGP (e.g., such as the ongoing RPKI and BGP-SEC work). I=
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>>> is not to design new security protocols or to "write policy and
>>> procedures for operators" -- that would of course be over-reaching and
>>> presumptuous. The goal is specifically to identify strategies for
>>> incremental deployment of the solutions designed and evaluated by the
>>> appropriate technical groups (e.g., IETF working groups). And, while t=
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>>> SIGCOMM paper you mention is an example of such a strategy, it is just
>>> one single example -- and is by no means the recommendation of a group
>>> that is not yet even fully assembled yet. The working group will debat=
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>>> and discuss a great many issues before suggesting any strategies, and
>>> those strategies would be the output of the entire working group.
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>>> <tongue in cheek> As for "publish or perish" academics, I doubt you'll
>>> find that the small set of academics who choose to go knee deep into
>>> operational issues do so because they are trying to optimize their
>>> academic careers... ;) </tongue in cheek>
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>>> -- Jen
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