[143911] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Prefix hijacking by Michael Lindsay via Internap
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David Conrad)
Sun Aug 21 15:26:56 2011
From: David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org>
In-Reply-To: <CAAAwwbXNtwqRTtsHBLvupi5qr6WKdJUNEipQiX5jA8KwBVR9bA@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2011 09:26:08 -1000
To: Jimmy Hess <mysidia@gmail.com>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org list" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
Jimmy,
On Aug 21, 2011, at 8:15 AM, Jimmy Hess wrote:
> The system is this way BY DESIGN, and any other method would =
concentrate power
> which would be detrimental to the internet and counter to its
> open/consensus driven nature.
See recent discussions in RIPEland regarding BGPSEC+RPKI regarding =
policy 2008-08.
> The RIRs' job is to provide unique registrations, nothing else.
> And registry fees are for recovering costs necessary to provide the
> service and to maintain addressing policy.
Googling "<RIR> budget 2011" gives (all in US$, using today's Euro and =
Aus$ conversion rates):
AfriNIC: 2011 Expenses: $2,832,614 =
(http://www.afrinic.org/corporate/Budget2011.pdf)
APNIC: 2011 Expenses: $14,815,906 =
(http://meetings.apnic.net/__data/assets/pdf_file/0005/31478/treasurers_re=
port.pdf)=20
ARIN: 2011 Expenses: $16,412,160 =
(https://www.arin.net/about_us/corp_docs/budget.html)
RIPE: 2011 Expenses: $26,313,894 =
(http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-507, using today's exchange rate)
Can't seem to find a 2011 (or anything more recent than 2005) budget for =
LACNIC.
BTW, since you made passing reference to them and just FYA:
ICANN: Expenses: $61,164,000 =
(http://www.icann.org/en/financials/adopted-opplan-budget-fy12-09aug11-en.=
pdf)
So if LACNIC's budget is more than $790K, the RIRs combined budget for =
"providing unique registrations, nothing else" for IP addresses will be =
more than ICANN's budget for coordinating all unique Internet =
identifiers including addresses, IETF protocol parameters, and domains =
(and "promoting competition" in the latter) and dealing with a much =
larger community (at least as measured by meeting attendance).
> _Enforcement_ of RIR allocations is by network operators =
refusing to
> originate or propagate announcements by organizations unauthorized by
> the registered resource holder.
Very true. Of course, defining "registered resource holder" and finding =
that information will likely get a bit more complicated in the future...
Regards,
-drc
