[14382] in North American Network Operators' Group
smurf, the MCI-developed tracing tools (was Re: Bogus announcement)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Network Operations Center)
Sat Dec 27 16:34:31 1997
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 14:39:40 -0800 (PST)
From: Network Operations Center <noc@nwrain.net>
Reply-To: Network Operations Center <noc@nwrain.net>
To: Karl Denninger <karl@Mcs.Net>
cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <19971227143842.44560@mcs.net>
Hello Karl & All, Where or at what price are these tools
available.
Tia, JimL
PS: In a further responce Karl was heard to say :
> The bottom line is that MONTHS after these were made available your NOC crew
I never heard nor was made aware that these tools were available,
even though I am an MCI Customer . :-(
On Sat, 27 Dec 1997, Karl Denninger wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 27, 1997 at 01:24:05PM -0500, Reid B. Fishler wrote:
> > Just thought that I would post that as one of goodnet's larger
>>customers (DS3), we are
> > VERY satisfied with their NOC, as well as their service. Whenever I
>>have a problem, I
> > can get a member of the goodnet staff to respond quicker than my
>>other upstreams...:-)
> > (hint Sprint)
> >
> > Reid Fishler
> > Lightning Internet Services, LLC
>
> Wait until you get smurfed and ask them to use the MCI-developed tracing
> tools and get a "duhhhhh" back in response.
>
> They might have fixed this by now (since we bitched LOUDLY about this) but
> as of a few weeks ago the NOC had *no idea* how to trace this kind of
> activity - at all - nor any desire to learn.
