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Re: Verizon Business - LTE?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (=?utf-8?B?TcOlbnM=?= Nilsson)
Wed Aug 17 02:52:35 2011

Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2011 08:52:03 +0200
From: =?utf-8?B?TcOlbnM=?= Nilsson <mansaxel@besserwisser.org>
To: chris <tknchris@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <CAKnNFz9=Z+YJ_=RrkyRXXK9qkTZQtvkV2+WFdG9WYWmV0Pf5Ng@mail.gmail.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
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Subject: Re: Verizon Business - LTE? Date: Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 11:49:38AM =
-0400 Quoting chris (tknchris@gmail.com):
> Overall, IMO the trends are just seem to be going backwards. We have more
> speed but we can use it less? What kind of technology advancement is that?
>=20
> I've had "unlimited" gprs, edge, 3g, and never really seen any kind of
> actual cap. Sure they were slower but I didn't have to worry about getting
> surprised on my next bill. If my edge from 5+ years ago could 3gb/day and
> 90gb a month how is 4G at 5gb an improvement of the service?

In Sweden, I've seen several people in public transportation run
Bittorrent clients on 3G. There might have been 9g a month for you
back then, but nobody else did it. Now, every laptop has a 3G card. And
they're getting used. With a sensible distribution of users over cells,
the bottleneck is backhaul. Many towers started out with a couple bundled
E1 circuits. Upgrading them to Ethernet over something (because Ethernet
is the new black) costs a lot, apparently.

OTOH, never underestimate "Because we can".=20

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M=C3=A5ns Nilsson     primary/secondary/besserwisser/machina
MN-1334-RIPE                             +46 705 989668
Hmmm ... an arrogant bouquet with a subtle suggestion of POLYVINYL
CHLORIDE ...

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