[143752] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Verizon Business - LTE?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Stephen Sprunk)
Tue Aug 16 13:54:42 2011
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2011 12:53:21 -0500
From: Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org>
To: nanog@nanog.org
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On 16-Aug-11 10:49, chris wrote:
> If my edge from 5+ years ago could 3gb/day and 90gb a month how is 4G a=
t 5gb an improvement of the service?
Who said the goal was an improvement in /service/? Based on their
actions, it is quite clear that carriers are only interested technology
or contract terms that improve their /profits/, i.e. take more money out
of customers' wallets. And that's exactly what their shareholders want
them to do; it would be rather na=C3=AFve to expect anything else.
S
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