[143542] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: IPv6 end user addressing
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Matthew Moyle-Croft)
Thu Aug 11 20:09:13 2011
From: Matthew Moyle-Croft <mmc@internode.com.au>
To: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2011 00:08:37 +0000
In-Reply-To: <76C3FDEC-17A6-4E95-A5A4-C4DA5EA7DC5F@delong.com>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On 11/08/2011, at 1:33 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
>=20
> On Aug 10, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Mark Newton wrote:
>=20
>>=20
>> On 11/08/2011, at 8:42 AM, Owen DeLong wrote:
>>>=20
>>> I suppose that limiting enough households to too small an allocation
>>> will have that effect. I would rather we steer the internet deployment
>>> towards liberal enough allocations to avoid such disability for the
>>> future.
>>=20
>>=20
>> I see the lack of agreement on whether /48 or /56 or /60 is good for a
>> home network to be a positive thing.
>>=20
>> As long as there's no firm consensus, router vendors will have to implem=
ent
>> features which don't make silly hard-coded assumptions.
>>=20
> Yes and no. In terms of potential innovations, if enough of the market ch=
ooses
> /60, they will hard code the assumption that they cannot count on more th=
an
> a /60 being available into their development process regardless of what
> gets into the router. Sure, they won't be able to assume you can't get a =
/48,
> but, they also won't necessarily implement features that would take advan=
tage
> of a /48.
Abundance doesn't drive innovations. Scarcity does. IPv6 does not have a =
scarcity issue. I assert that IPv6 addressing is not going to now or ever =
do anything particularly innovative that can't be done better at other, mor=
e relevant, layers. =20
The time for arguing about arbitrary things that make no difference to the =
end customers has passed. The navel gazing must cease and we must move for=
ward on IPv6 to the home rather than continuing the confusion about this an=
d other IPv6 arbitrary bit obsession stuff.
We need to stop spending our time on rearranging the Titanic's deckchairs a=
nd get the <profanity> on with stopping the crashing into the iceberg by pr=
oviding clear leadership on getting IPv6 to the masses to enable their APPL=
ICATIONS and EXPERIENCE without the impending doom of IPv4 CGN.
My name is Matthew, I HAVE given my customers the ability to get IPv6 and I=
don't give a flying one about the prefix length, I care about getting ANY =
prefix to the end users so they can use it and solve the issues at their en=
d. I AM enabling innovation just by doing that. =20
MMC=
