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Re: IPv6 end user addressing

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Wed Aug 10 21:56:09 2011

From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <CAPWAtbJn+7LcdqDpnxseua++A-0DNmqUknpibCAD_2583z78pw@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 18:51:37 -0700
To: Jeff Wheeler <jsw@inconcepts.biz>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

>=20
> I don't have to use my imagination to think of ways that additional
> bits on the network address side would have been advantageous -- all I
> need is my memory.  In the 90s, it was suggested that a growing number
> of dual-homed networks cluttering the DFZ could be handled more
> efficiently by setting aside certain address space for customers who
> dual-homed to pairs of the largest ISPs.  The customer routes would
> then not need to be carried by anyone except those two ISPs, who are
> earning money from the customer.  This never happened for a variety of
> good reasons, but most of the technical reasons would have gone away
> with the adoption of IPv6, as it was envisioned in the mid-90s.
>=20


I think that can still be very realistically achieved within the =
existing available
address space.

> There seems to be a lot of imagination being used for SOHO networks,
> and none on the ISP side.  What a shame that is.
>=20

I disagree.

> Owen, I do agree with the point you made off-list, that if huge
> mistakes are made now and the IPv6 address space is consumed more
> rapidly than the community is comfortable with, there should be plenty
> of opportunity to fix that down the road.
>=20

Precisely, so, let's risk a small chance of a mistake here now so that =
we don't
cut off innovation so early.

Owen



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