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Re: IPv6 end user addressing

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Matthew Moyle-Croft)
Mon Aug 8 20:43:10 2011

From: Matthew Moyle-Croft <mmc@internode.com.au>
To: Brian Mengel <bmengel@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 00:42:12 +0000
In-Reply-To: <CAAv0nWCfMtcGGyEfxP54J1SpydGj88A08iKGip8NfPjhm1az6A@mail.gmail.com>
Cc: "<nanog@nanog.org>" <nanog@nanog.org>
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Hi Brian,

From someone who's actually done this.

- Our customer base is primarily PPP connected broadband users (variety of =
technologies, mostly ADSL).
- We do a DYNAMIC /64 on the PPP interface so that people who terminate dir=
ectly on a PC can get IPv6 without DHCPv6 PD.
- In addition for the subnet assigned via DHCPv6 Prefix delegation which is=
 STATIC as that's what customers have been asking for:

In our trial phase we did /60s to customers - this worked just fine.  I don=
't recall anyone actually saying "I need more".  (The /60 was the first nib=
ble boundary and it allowed us to do some dumb things for allocation which =
didn't compromise the allocation strategy later).

In production we've chosen a more conventional /56.   At some point it beco=
mes a little arbitrary.  Our feeling is that at the point your have 256 /64=
s in production then ADSL is probably NOT what you need or want as a techno=
logy so we can do things differently for ethernet connected customers.

We're getting there with support for customers bringing their own PI space.

(For an idea of scale - we're tiny globally, but have around 250k customers=
 across mainly Australia.  We run our own global dualstack network).

MMC


On 06/08/2011, at 1:47 AM, Brian Mengel wrote:

In reviewing IPv6 end user allocation policies, I can find little
agreement on what prefix length is appropriate for residential end
users.  /64 and /56 seem to be the favorite candidates, with /56 being
slightly preferred.

I am most curious as to why a /60 prefix is not considered when trying
to address this problem.  It provides 16 /64 subnetworks, which seems
like an adequate amount for an end user.

Does anyone have opinions on the BCP for end user addressing in IPv6?


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