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Re: OOB

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Joel Jaeggli)
Tue Jul 26 23:42:09 2011

From: Joel Jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com>
In-Reply-To: <CAL9jLaZ0So34Am_JLddtSsGbVSXVK=aW6uyoWcY8XTNGwMv4iw@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 23:40:07 -0400
To: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

My measured availability for a automatic reverse ssh tunnel connection =
made through a 4g radio in the field was 52%. this was vs 95% on the =
lab/office environment with the same equipment. That particular =
experiment I declared a failure.

There was never a closer truism than ymmv.

joel

On Jul 26, 2011, at 10:33 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 5:34 PM, M=E5ns Nilsson =
<mansaxel@besserwisser.org> wrote:
>> Subject: Re: OOB Date: Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 10:14:21AM -0400 Quoting =
Christopher Morrow (morrowc.lists@gmail.com):
>>> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Paul Stewart =
<paul@paulstewart.org> wrote:
>>>> We do everything in-band with strict monitoring/policies in place.
>>>=20
>>> what do you do if your in-band fails? if a router/switch/ROADM is
>>> isolated from the rest of your network?
>>> (isn't that the core point of the OP?)
>>=20
>> Vendor C sells nice small routers with something like CAB-OCTAL-ASYNC
>> _and_ a 3G modem instead of the BRI port. The 3G modem keeps its
>> connection up (our telecom provider has true flat rate on domestic =
3G,
>> YMMV) and VPN's to the head office much like any other telecommuter. =
This
>> cuts through all telco stupidity with firewalled or NAT'ed 3G phones
>> etc, especially if one uses the break-out-from-hotel-LAN functions of
>> the VPN system. The router of course actively keeps the VPN up and
>> reestablishes it if needed.
>=20
> how well does that work inside a big metal box like equinix?
>=20
> You are, of course, just making a singular point: "Find something to
> make yourself an OOB network, hey this thing does vpn over 3g, neato!"
> I agree, it's neat.. it may not fit all square holes, sometimes you
> need a round or triangle shaped plug.
>=20
>=20



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