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Re: NANOG List Update - Moving Forward

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jared Mauch)
Tue Jul 12 12:38:10 2011

From: Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net>
In-Reply-To: <4E1C74EE.2030002@2mbit.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 12:37:49 -0400
To: Brielle Bruns <bruns@2mbit.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org


On Jul 12, 2011, at 12:23 PM, Brielle Bruns wrote:

> Looks like parts of the received like are still there, though =
butchered and mashed in (most likely in a non-RFC compliant manner) with =
the one added by 'bulk_maler v1.13' (great name for the mailer, btw, =
sets off my spammy sense something fierce).

You seem to be new here.

bulk_mailer was something used back in the day to workaround limitations =
in sendmail for those people operating majordomo (and those using smail =
etc).  it broke the chunks into something that sendmail would then =
allocate multiple processes to.  most other mail subsystems can handle =
the multiple-rcpts in different manners.

while it may 'feel' spammy to you, it's certainly not.

a simple google of "majordomo and bulk_mailer" should give you a good =
idea of what's going on.

there were a lot of other mail systems that served to help integrate and =
interoperate back in the day, including qmailer, smail, etc that all =
attempted to replace sendmail, including providing the uucp interaction =
necessary for those behind dialup.

either way, please try to keep the feedback off-list for now as we =
undergo this transition.  It's hard to move a large list like this =
without trouble.  I've been party to many such list moves in the past =
and they usually have all sorts of trouble.

admins@nanog.org is the right place for your feedback right now.

- Jared=


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