[142219] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: future revenue at risk vs near term cost ratio
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Tim Chown)
Mon Jun 20 04:55:13 2011
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From: Tim Chown <tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 09:55:00 +0100
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On 20 Jun 2011, at 08:00, Doug Barton wrote:
> On 06/19/2011 23:38, Mike Leber wrote:
>>=20
>>=20
>> On 6/19/11 10:47 PM, Paul Vixie wrote:
>>>> Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 22:32:59 -0700
>>>> From: Doug Barton<dougb@dougbarton.us>
>>>>=20
>>>> ... the highly risk-averse folks who won't unconditionally enable =
IPv6
>>>> on their web sites because it will cause problems for 1/2000 of =
their
>>>> customers.
>>> let me just say that if i was making millions of dollars a day and i =
had
>>> the choice of reducing that by 1/2000th or not i would not choose to
>>> reduce it. as much as i love the free interchange of ideas i will =
point
>>> out that commerce is what's paid the internet's bills all these =
years.
>>=20
>> Fortunately, 1/2000th was just the now proven false boogey man that
>> people substituted as a placeholder for the unknown.
>=20
> Actually the people using that number had hard facts to back it up, =
but that was all debated at length already, and I don't see any point =
going over it again.
Except that if there's new evidence showing the figure is lower, let's =
see it :)
The measurements we have made show 0.07% over the past month or so, the =
figure being users who can access a site with an A record, but not one =
with an A and AAAA record. There are still corner case issues out =
there, but I suspect that that small percentage may well be down to =
users who don't update their OS or software. It would be very =
interesting to know the real causes. I would hope things like 3484-bis =
and happy eyeballs will help reduce these further.
Tim=
