[142217] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: ICANN to allow commercial gTLDs
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Warren Kumari)
Mon Jun 20 03:45:41 2011
From: Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net>
In-Reply-To: <F0DA92E0-484F-4488-8B7B-6BAE1B353F64@virtualized.org>
Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2011 02:44:58 -0500
To: David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Jun 17, 2011, at 9:13 PM, David Conrad wrote:
> On Jun 17, 2011, at 4:04 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
>> I really don't think that namespace issues are part of the role for =
the ASO AC.
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> Why do you think there is an ASO?
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>> This is clearly a problem for ICANN's disaster-ridden domain-name =
side, and not
>> for the ASO/NRO side of things.
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> Because there is clearly no inter-relation between domains and address =
and the
> operation of the Internet.
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>> Operationally, it's a horrible idea, but,
>> most of us in layers 1-4 stopped paying much attention to the =
disasters happening
>> at ICANN for DNS along time ago as we sort of came to believe that we =
didn't have
>> enough money to bribe^h^h^h^h^hinfluence the right people in a =
sufficiently
>> meaningful way to make our voices heard.
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> Aren't you one of the folks who state that if you don't participate in =
PPML then
> you have no reason to criticize ARIN policies?
+1 -- If you haven't bothered to be involved, you have lost the right to =
kvetch=85 If enough operational folk had bothered to stay involved, =
ICANN would be more operational. Claiming that it is all driven by money =
is a cop out. Yes, it's very political, yes there are LOTS of lawyers =
and policy folk, yes the atmosphere is not fun, yes the registries and =
registrars are the big players (because they have bothered to play), but =
technical folk CAN and DO make a difference=85
Warren "serves on the SSAC" Kumari
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> Regards,
> -drc
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