[142102] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: ICANN to allow commercial gTLDs
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Fri Jun 17 22:30:15 2011
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <F0DA92E0-484F-4488-8B7B-6BAE1B353F64@virtualized.org>
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 19:25:30 -0700
To: David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Jun 17, 2011, at 7:13 PM, David Conrad wrote:
> On Jun 17, 2011, at 4:04 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
>> I really don't think that namespace issues are part of the role for =
the ASO AC.
>=20
> Why do you think there is an ASO?
>=20
To coordinate numberspace issues between the IANA and the RIRs.
>> This is clearly a problem for ICANN's disaster-ridden domain-name =
side, and not
>> for the ASO/NRO side of things.
>=20
> Because there is clearly no inter-relation between domains and address =
and the
> operation of the Internet.
>=20
Oh, there is tremendous inter-relation. However, making a mess and then =
punting it
to the ASO is an entirely different matter.
>> Operationally, it's a horrible idea, but,
>> most of us in layers 1-4 stopped paying much attention to the =
disasters happening
>> at ICANN for DNS along time ago as we sort of came to believe that we =
didn't have
>> enough money to bribe^h^h^h^h^hinfluence the right people in a =
sufficiently
>> meaningful way to make our voices heard.
>=20
> Aren't you one of the folks who state that if you don't participate in =
PPML then
> you have no reason to criticize ARIN policies?
>=20
It doesn't cost anything to participate in PPML.
Owen
