[142093] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: ICANN to allow commercial gTLDs
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Joel Jaeggli)
Fri Jun 17 21:49:51 2011
From: Joel Jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com>
In-Reply-To: <13646138.616.1308348822044.JavaMail.root@benjamin.baylink.com>
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 18:48:25 -0700
To: Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Jun 17, 2011, at 3:13 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>
>=20
>> As for calling ICANN stupid, thinking this will help fracture the
>> 'Net, I think you are all confused. I think the NANOG community has
>> become (OK, always was) a bit of an echo chamber. Trust me when I say
>> we are the minority. Most people think very differently, and we =
better
>> accept that if we hope to affect things outside our little group.
>=20
> We may be the minority, but my experience is we have a pretty good =
record
> at spotting where the pinch points might come up in proposed =
expansions/
> changes.
>=20
> http://apple/ is going to break a bunch of shit.
>=20
> (Ok, it might or might not break actual browsers, but I have seen =
"require at=20
> least one dot or assume it's not a domain name" in *lots* of code; the
> inability to put sjobs@apple in your address book will not be =
popular.)
All fully qualified domain names have a trailing dot so that you know =
where the root is. At least as parsed internally by your resolver...
:~ jjaeggli$ dig com
; <<>> DiG 9.6.0-APPLE-P2 <<>> com
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 26972
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;com. IN A
;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
com. 705 IN SOA a.gtld-servers.net. =
nstld.verisign-grs.com. 1308361302 1800 900 604800 86400
;; Query time: 257 msec
;; SERVER: 192.168.46.1#53(192.168.46.1)
;; WHEN: Fri Jun 17 18:45:34 2011
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 94
yeah code based on faulty assumptions is going to break, it generally =
does... one semi-related anecdote, Last time I ran an ietf meeting that =
did dynamic dns registration (circa 2005), some people discovered the =
corprate firewalls would let them in if the reverse entry for their ip =
address was in the form host.domain.meeting.ietf.org, clearly that's =
really hard to subvert.
> Interstate-level traffic engineering types are not a big political =
bloc,
> either... but no one ignores them when building Interstates.
>=20
> Cheers,
> -- jra
> --=20
> Jay R. Ashworth Baylink =
jra@baylink.com
> Designer The Things I Think =
RFC 2100
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Rover DII
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647 1274
>=20
