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Re: The stupidity of trying to "fix" DHCPv6

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Leo Bicknell)
Sun Jun 12 09:45:09 2011

Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 06:45:01 -0700
From: Leo Bicknell <bicknell@ufp.org>
To: nanog@nanog.org
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In a message written on Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 01:04:41PM +0200, Iljitsch van=
 Beijnum wrote:
> But what's the alternative? Always run DHCPv6 even if there are no router=
 advertisements or router advertisements with O=3D0, M=3D0?

Yes.

> Like I said before, that would pollute the network with many multicasts w=
hich can seriously degrade wifi performance.

Huh?  This is no worse than IPv4 where a host comes up and sends a
subnet-broadcast to get DHCP.  I have never heard of a network
brought to its knees from these requests.  A single packet each
time a host boots is hardly a high PPS rate.

> And networks without RAs are very common. We call those networks "IPv4-on=
ly networks".

No, we call those server networks.  I've seen lots of IPv6 networks with
RA's disabled and all static devices on them.  Sometimes having hosts
dynamically get addresses and default routes is a bad thing.

> And in the current situation DHCPv6 without router advertisements is poin=
tless because you may get an address, but you have no place to send your pa=
ckets.

Which is what we would like to fix.

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       Leo Bicknell - bicknell@ufp.org - CCIE 3440
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