[141736] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Yup; the Internet is screwed up.
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (TR Shaw)
Fri Jun 10 20:00:42 2011
From: TR Shaw <tshaw@oitc.com>
In-Reply-To: <4DF2AC2B.7070108@mompl.net>
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 20:00:37 -0400
To: Jeroen van Aart <jeroen@mompl.net>,
NANOG List <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Jun 10, 2011, at 7:43 PM, Jeroen van Aart wrote:
> Jay Ashworth wrote:
>> Even Cracked realizes this:
>> =
http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-reasons-internet-access-in-america-disaster
>> That can't be good.
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> <ignorant?>
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> "up to 10 percent of the country can't even get basic broadband"
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> I think I saw much larger numbers a few years ago when I read some =
hype stories about how broadband access in the USA sucks. I am =
positively surprised the gap has narrowed that much.
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> I wonder, what's wrong with dialup through ISDN? You get speed that is =
about the same as low end broadband I'd say. And I think it'd be =
available at these locations where DSL is not.
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> To quote http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadband_Internet_access#ISDN
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> "A basic rate ISDN line (known as ISDN-BRI) is an ISDN line with 2 =
data "bearer" channels (DS0 - 64 kbit/s each). Using ISDN terminal =
adapters (erroneously called modems), it is possible to bond together 2 =
or more separate ISDN-BRI lines to reach bandwidths of 256 kbit/s or =
more. The ISDN channel bonding technology has been used for video =
conference applications and broadband data transmission."
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> My low end home DSL connection has similar bandwidth.
> With regards to the writer's main gripe, if your telecommute work =
typically consists of ssh sessions and email then even y'olde dialup =
will do just fine.
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> </ignorant?>
Try ordering one. If I wanted one here I couldn't order one today. =
Years ago I had a bonded BRI serving my first server and and it took 3 =
months to get it working. I am not sure central offices have that =
capability any more. There was also a distance constraint from the CO =
(kinda like the distance issue from the DSLAM demark)
I have a fishing cabin out in the middle of nowhere and I get broadband =
via a small ISP that serves via Canopy coresiding on 300 ft cell towers. =
This provides 1-20Mbps service even when the cell towers only provide =
Edge
Tom=
