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Re: Why don't ISPs peer with everyone?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Tue Jun 7 01:41:48 2011

From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTikQo8NeeskpNuxKVa60uH3VTXLRgw@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2011 22:37:19 -0700
To: Alex Ryu <r.hyunseog@ieee.org>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

FWIW, Hurricane Electric has an aggressively open peering policy and we
will peer with anyone who is willing to peer at any exchange where we =
are
connected. We believe as stated by Rucas that this only serves to =
enhance
the internet experience for our customers as well as our peers.

So far, it seems to be working pretty well for us. I encourage others to =
follow
our lead in this regard as it truly does make a more functional =
internet.

Owen

On Jun 6, 2011, at 3:24 PM, Alex Ryu wrote:

> Nope.
>=20
> It is because who pay the money, and somebody wants to earn the money
> because they have more control.
> So it is because of "money".
>=20
> Welcome to the world of capitalism.
>=20
> Alex
>=20
>=20
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 5:19 PM,  <rucasbrown@hushmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>=20
>> I wouldn't consider myself a network engineer, nor do I have any
>> formal training, but why don't ISPs peer with every other ISP? It
>> would only save EVERYONE money if they did this, no? Only issue I
>> see is with possibly hijacked / malicious AS owners, but that's not
>> very common to do without being caught.
>>=20
>> All the whole "don't peer with this guy" only makes your customers
>> have worse latencies and paths to other people, making the Internet
>> less healthy.
>>=20
>> Thanks,
>> Rucas
>>=20
>> PS: sorry if I sent this twice; client lagged a bit.
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20



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