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Re: (OT) UN declares Internet access a "human right"

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu)
Mon Jun 6 09:42:40 2011

To: Andrew D Kirch <trelane@trelane.net>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 06 Jun 2011 00:59:55 EDT."
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From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2011 09:41:44 -0400
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

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On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 00:59:55 EDT, Andrew D Kirch said:
> correct regarding firearms, without recognizing the basic right to 
> protect human life against criminals and despots, there are no other 
> rights (as a criminal and despot will take those rights with impunity).

Nice try, but the human right you just made a case for is "the right to rid
yourself of criminals and despots".  A "fundamental right" for citizens to have
firearms does *not* automatically follow.  Yes, despots usually need to be
removed by force.  What Ghandi showed was that the force didn't have to be
military - there are other types of force that work well too...

Anyhow, enough of that, except as it relates to communications.. ;)





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