[141105] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Microsoft's participation in World IPv6 day
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jared Mauch)
Fri Jun 3 08:42:21 2011
From: Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net>
In-Reply-To: <201106031427.07262.fredan-nanog@fredan.se>
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2011 08:42:01 -0400
To: fredrik danerklint <fredan-nanog@fredan.se>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Jun 3, 2011, at 8:27 AM, fredrik danerklint wrote:
> The problem is not all on Microsoft at this case.
>=20
>=20
> For example; I've bought a ZyXEL P-2612HNU-F1(which has
> 802.11n Wireless ADSL 2+ 4-port gateway 2 SIP 2 USB 3G Backup)
> in december 2010. It basiclly has everything in it.
You made the mistake of buying something that wasn't compliant with the =
following draft:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-george-ipv6-required-02
> How do I as a customer do to have a working IPv6 setup on this modem =
since=20
> ZyXEL, basicilly, has decide that it will not support IPv6 at all?=20
>=20
> I mean, you can not say it does not have the the cpu power for =
handling IPv6=20
> when it can also act as a fileserver and a printserver for example.
>=20
> What they (ZyXEL) are saying to me (for not haveing IPv6 at this =
moment) is=20
> that they don't have the skills to implement IPv6 in their current =
products.
>=20
> Think about all the CPE that will not be upgraded, since those that =
makes them=20
> don't care at all, even tough it probably has the cpu power to handle =
IPv6.
Replacing CPE will come naturally with entropy over time combined with =
the early-adopters.
I know many people who would walk into the store today and buy a docsis =
3 cable modem if cox/charter/twcable etc had ipv6 available.
> And I haven't even started at the network equiment that exists between =
me as a=20
> ISP and my customer (this equiment is out of my control), that can't =
handle=20
> IPv6 even if my customer got an working CPE with IPv6.
This is a whole other issue but getting better. I do want to see what =
Qwest (Centurylink?) plans on the consumer side as well as any form of =
an upgrade to the 2WIRE devices that AT&T is using. Looking at the =
other providers out there, it's interesting to watch the table growing =
daily. Somewhere around 10-20 new ASNs appear in the IPv6 table right =
now. (Weekends tend to show few if any adds).
2WIRE rant: These have a whole host of issues that seem to constantly =
cause problems. (I do like that if you send a SIP notify to devices =
behind them they sometimes reboot themselves and solve the problem due =
to their broken SIP-ALG that can't be disabled).
> How fun is that?
The usual fun. We have had discussions with vendors about IPv6 support =
and capabilities and they are really interesting. Just ask about v6 =
lawful-intercept for compliance next time. Interesting days ahead, but =
all Is the bright future. The network is real now, even if you don't =
like the smell or color of IPv6.
- Jared=
