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Re: IT Survey Request: Win an iPad2 or Kindle!

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Fred Baker)
Fri May 27 14:43:51 2011

From: Fred Baker <fred@cisco.com>
In-Reply-To: <4DDFD650.7080400@csuohio.edu>
Date: Fri, 27 May 2011 11:43:00 -0700
To: Michael Holstein <michael.holstein@csuohio.edu>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>, "Sunder Rajan,
	Archana Devi" <archana.devi.sunder.rajan.2011@anderson.ucla.edu>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org


On May 27, 2011, at 9:50 AM, Michael Holstein wrote:

> Not picking on you personally .. but let's call a spade a spade, shall
> we? .. this is market research sponsored by a vendor with a hat in the
> game. Not exactly objective, and wasn't disclosed up-front.


OK, let me step in here.=20

This was sponsored under http://www.cisco.com/research, which is a =
program in which we hand out smalls amounts of money in the form of =
grants to further the industry. It is done as a grant from and to a =
501(3)c. As a result, under US law, we are explicitly precluded from =
directly benefiting from the research. We can read the paper when it's =
published, and we might or might not draw conclusions from it, but the =
paper will at that point be in the open.

Yes, it's Cisco funding. It's UCLA research, and as far as we know it is =
exactly as described by Sunder - he's gathering data for a paper.


Listen folks. If you want to be involved, Sunder will appreciate it. If =
you don't, don't be. But don't beat the kid up over unfounded =
assumptions.=


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