[140970] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Ham Radio Networking (was Re: Rogers Canada using 7.0.0.0/8 for
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David Conrad)
Thu May 26 16:54:19 2011
From: David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org>
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTikympd7=o2CwUpw3j5xKeHvKe7K-w@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 26 May 2011 10:54:10 -1000
To: Carl Rosevear <crosevear@skytap.com>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
And I just want to point out that a full /8 (worth $188,911,452.16 at =
the benchmark rate as set by Microsoft/NNI) is dedicated to AMPR... :-)
When I was at IANA, we (where by "we" I mean Leo Vegoda :-)) looked at =
trying to reclaim this /8 around the same time we were recovering the /8 =
dedicated to X.25. The decentralized nature of administration of 44/8 =
made this somewhat intractable. It'll be interesting to see how this =
plays out in the future address markets.
Regards,
-drc
On May 26, 2011, at 10:19 AM, Carl Rosevear wrote:
> Used to run IP over AX.25 using KA9Q JNOS back in the day. HF at 300
> baud simplex / half-duplex and VHF 144 Mhz at 1200 with similar
> characteristics. I bought some 9600 baud gear at one point but never
> got it all put together before moving on to the regular internet and
> (somewhat unfortunately) not really looking back. I remember
> transferring some uuencoded gifs via smtp... a couple of days later,
> if you were lucky, it would complete. I learned about how protocols
> communicate watching packet traces in KA9Q JNOS when I was about 14
> years old. It was really easy when there were guaranteed to be
> multiple seconds between packets. I remember being 14 and feeling
> pretty suave when I figured out how to telnet into an SMTP server to
> send mail... of course that is old hat but still good common
> troubleshooting these days!
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> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 8:13 AM, Jack Carrozzo <jack@crepinc.com> =
wrote:
>> Me personally? No, but I have used it. IP over 9600baud serial =
actually
>> isn't that bad for IRC when you're in the middle of the woods and =
all.
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>> You want slow... read about winlink2000, the email/messaging system =
for hams
>> and emergency response. It's PSK on HF, meant to be reliable but if =
you get
>> more than 400bps you are doing GREAT! It's so slow that you can run =
the
>> software on two laptops using the sound cards, and they'll talk =
across the
>> room via speakers and mics no problem. It sounds kinda like robots =
rapping.
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>> -Jack Carrozzo
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>> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Christopher Pilkington =
<cjp@0x1.net>wrote:
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>>> On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Jack Carrozzo <jack@crepinc.com> =
wrote:
>>>> Nope, mostly HF (under 30mhz) gear at 300baud. Yes, you read that =
right.
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>>> You are running IP on this? And I though 1200 bauds half duplex was =
slow.
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> Carl Rosevear
> Manager of Operations
> Skytap, Inc.
> direct (206) 588-8899
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