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Re: Netflix Is Eating Up More Of North America's Bandwidth Than Any

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Robert Bonomi)
Wed May 25 05:11:11 2011

Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 04:10:28 -0500 (CDT)
From: Robert Bonomi <bonomi@mail.r-bonomi.com>
To: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <3850133.642.1306293296191.JavaMail.root@benjamin.baylink.com>
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> From nanog-bounces+bonomi=mail.r-bonomi.com@nanog.org  Tue May 24 22:19:18 2011
> Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 23:14:56 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com>
> To: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
> Subject: Re: Netflix Is Eating Up More Of North America's Bandwidth Than Any
> 	Other Company
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Christopher Morrow" <morrowc.lists@gmail.com>
>
> > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 10:48 PM, Lou Katz <lou@metron.com> wrote:
> > >> > An "elegant" idea, done in by changing technology. *sigh*
> > >
> > > As USENIX director I sponsored and sheparded this project, called
> > > "Stargate".
> > > We at least got bits into the blanking interval at WTBS in Altanta.
> >
> > So... would this have been feasible today? given the bandwidth required 
> > to send a full feed these days, i suspect likely not, eh? (even if you 
> > were able to do it on all 500+ channels in parallel)
>
> I can't tell you whether it would be feasible from a *quantity* 
> standpoint unless you specify what your group list is -- big 7 text?  
> Probably.
>
> Problem is, it depended (as he noted) on a peculiarity of the network TV 
> environment at the time: it wasn't part of the signal, but of the 
> *transport* which -- at the time -- was carried around along with the 
> signal, so you could piggyback stuff there, and get it right to people's 
> TVs.  MPEG2 and 4 don't carry the vertical interval, so any ride you can 
> get isn't free -- rather similar to our Multicast discussion last week.
>
> Back in the really bad old days, I'm told that the most stable frequency 
> source the average civilian could get was the 3.58MHz oscillator in a 
> color TV set -- but *only* when you were watching *network* programs, at 
> which time that oscillator was effectively phase-locked to a $50k+ black 
> burst generator at network master control.
>
> Frame synchronizers shot that plan out of the water.
>
> Never been sure if that's apocryphal or not.
>
> Cheers,
> -- jra
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