[140644] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Yahoo and IPv6
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Mon May 16 19:18:41 2011
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <4DD16EFA.2020207@freedesktop.org>
Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 16:12:27 -0700
To: Jim Gettys <jg@freedesktop.org>
Cc: Paul Vixie <vixie@isc.org>, nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On May 16, 2011, at 11:37 AM, Jim Gettys wrote:
> On 05/14/2011 07:39 PM, Paul Vixie wrote:
>> Jim Gettys<jg@freedesktop.org> writes:
>>=20
>>> ... we have to get naming squared away. Typing IPv6 addresses is =
for the
>>> birds, and having everyone have to go fuss with a DNS provider isn't =
a
>>> viable solution.
>> perhaps i'm too close to the problem because that solution looks =
quite
>> viable to me. dns providers who don't keep up with the market (which =
means
>> ipv6 and dnssec in this context) will lose business to those who do.
> I don't believe it is currently viable for any but the hackers out =
there, given my experience during the Comcast IPv6 trial. Typing V6 =
addresses (much less remembering them) is a PITA.
>=20
> You are asking people who don't even know DNS exists, to bother to =
establish another business relationship (or maybe DNS services might =
someday be provided by their ISP).
>=20
> If you get past that hurdle they get to type long IPv6 addresses into =
a web page they won't remember where it was the year before when they =
did this the last time to add a machine to their DNS.
>=20
> The way this "ought" to work for clueless home users (or cluefull =
users too, for that matter) is that, when a new machine appears on a =
network, it "just works", by which I mean that a globally routeable IPv6 =
address appears in DNS without fussing around using the name that was =
given to the machine when it was first booted, and that a home user's =
names are accessible via secondaries even if they are off line. And =
NXDOMAIN should work the way it was intended, for all the reasons you =
know better than I.
>=20
> This is entirely possible ;-). Just go ask Evan Hunt what he's been =
up to with Dave Taht recently....
> - Jim
>=20
>=20
> Right now, IPv6 is worse than IPv4 for home users; we need
How so? It's not like you can even reach anything at home now,=20
let alone reach it by name.
Owen
