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Re: Yahoo and IPv6

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Marshall Eubanks)
Sat May 14 13:03:00 2011

From: Marshall Eubanks <tme@americafree.tv>
In-Reply-To: <87180.1305391666@nsa.vix.com>
Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 13:02:16 -0400
To: Paul Vixie <vixie@isc.org>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org


On May 14, 2011, at 12:47 PM, Paul Vixie wrote:

> Matthew Kaufman <matthew@matthew.at> writes:
>=20
>>> My Desktop is not able to make any IPv4 socket connections anymore.  =
I get
>>> "Protocol not supported". So there are IPv6-only users, already =
bitten by
>>> no AAAA.  So that's -1 from me.
>>=20
>> Sounds to me like you're not on The Internet any more.
>=20
> in <http://www.merit.edu/mail.archives/nanog/2001-04/msg00294.html> we =
see:
>=20
> (*2)    Q: But what IS the Internet?
>        A: "It's the largest equivalence class in the reflexive, =
transitive,
>        symmetric, closure of the relationship 'can be reached by an IP
>        packet from'". Seth Breidbart
>=20
> by which definition, matthew's observation would be correct.  folks =
who want
> to run V6 only and still be "on the internet" will need proxies for a =
long
> while.  folks who want to run V6 only *today* and not have any proxies =
*today*
> are sort of on their own -- the industry will not cater to market =
non-forces.

I think that the real question is, when will people who are running IPv4 =
only not be on the Internet by this
definition ?

Regards
Marshall


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> Paul Vixie
> KI6YSY
>=20
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