[14043] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Eugene Kashpureff's Defense Fund
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (George Herbert)
Tue Nov 25 19:05:48 1997
To: Bob Allisat <tor@wtv.net>
cc: George Herbert <gherbert@crl.com>, nanog@merit.edu, newdom@ar.com,
caipcom@vrx.net, gtld-discuss@gtld-mou.org
In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 Nov 1997 16:51:57 GMT."
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Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 15:47:38 -0800
From: George Herbert <gherbert@crl.com>
From: Bob Allisat <tor@wtv.net>
>At 1:05 PM -0800 11/25/97, George Herbert wrote:
>>"Everyone" didn't profit from this stunt; most of us lost something.
>>Either directly in InterNIC and some net users cases, and those of
>>us who had to run around un-doing the vulnerability, or indirectly
>>in that his stunt redirected quite a bit of legitimate debate into
>>flame wars over a dumb publicity stunt instead.
>
> We gained the first direct action
> to protest the domination of the
> namespace. More will follow this
> time directed at the CORE conspiracy
> as well as others. *Unless* there
> are overt moves to negotiation,
> consensus and settlement. All of
> which must satisfy all parties
> not just a handful. There will be
> more protests and we must all
> support those who engage in these
> activities on our behalf until
> justice is served.
It is exactly this type of confrontational, paranoia-inducing
approach to the problem that has caused most of the problems
with working towards real netwide consensus. It's not suprising
you can't see it, but it's blindingly clear to me... I put
work into some back channel discussions that you bozos
managed to kill dead. You are not productive of solutions,
you are counterproductive, actively damaging to progress.
The "protest" created an environment where compromise became
harder and in fact did not happen. We all lost.
The only winners were a few people's egos, and one
of those people is now going to go to jail for it.
Trading ego boosts for real progress on the issues
is not my idea of problem solving, and until you stop
making that mistake you are a roadblock.
-george william herbert
gherbert@crl.com
