[140372] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: 23,000 IP addresses
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Deepak Jain)
Tue May 10 13:29:24 2011
From: Deepak Jain <deepak@ai.net>
To: Marshall Eubanks <tme@multicasttech.com>, NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 13:28:10 -0400
In-Reply-To: <94BA24FC-D987-4464-98C4-89978BF3CBF0@multicasttech.com>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
> A Federal Judge has decided to let the "U.S. Copyright Group" subpoena
> ISPs over 23,000 alleged downloads of some
> Sylvester Stallone movie I have never heard of; subpoenas are expected
> to go out this week.
>=20
> I thought that there might be some interest in the list of these
> addresses :
>=20
> http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/threatlevel/2011/05/expendibleipaddre
> sses.pdf
This will stop when a 80+ yr old is taken to court over a download her 8 ye=
ar old grandkid might have made when visiting for the weekend. The media wi=
ll make the case that technologists can't.
For examples, see the RIAA's attempts and more recently the criminal invest=
igations of child porn downloads from unsecured access points. From what I =
understand (or wildly guess) is that ISPs with remote diagnostic capabiliti=
es are being asked if their provided access point is secure or unsecure BEF=
ORE they serve their warrants to avoid further embarrassments. [It'll proba=
bly take another 6 months and more goofs before they realize that customers=
are perfectly capable of poorly installing their own access points behind =
ISP provided gear].
The torrent stuff is fundamentally no different in that a single IP can and=
is shared by lots of people as common practice and the transient nature of=
it (e.g. airport access point, starbucks, etc) reasonably makes the lawyer=
's case much, much harder.=20
There is a real theft/crime here in many cases, but whether there is actual=
ly any value in prosecution of movie downloads will depend... but most like=
ly, the outcome will be iMovies or similar and the movie industry will shri=
nk the way the music industry has.
DJ
