[140364] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: 23,000 IP addresses
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Marshall Eubanks)
Tue May 10 12:02:47 2011
From: Marshall Eubanks <tme@americafree.tv>
In-Reply-To: <fOTexpPpbUyNFANV@perry.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 12:01:54 -0400
To: Roland Perry <lists@internetpolicyagency.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On May 10, 2011, at 10:08 AM, Roland Perry wrote:
> In article <BANLkTimA-ZpM3bKXoDtxMgXySJ_FKYS+0w@mail.gmail.com>, chip =
<chip.gwyn@gmail.com> writes
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>> Interesting, especially after this:
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>> =
http://torrentfreak.com/ip-address-not-a-person-bittorrent-case-judge-says=
-110503/
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> It depends whether you are suing the subscriber or the downloader =
(maybe both can be liable in some cases). Also whether the subscriber =
was running an open Wifi (normally not recommended), which is a matter =
of evidential fact to be explored in each particular case.
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And, perhaps most critically, which judge you come before. (It will take =
a while, and maybe a visit to the Supreme Court, before you can
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Note also that these generally do not go to trial.
Regards
Marshall=20
>> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Marshall Eubanks =
<tme@multicasttech.com> wrote:
>>> A Federal Judge has decided to let the "U.S. Copyright Group" =
subpoena ISPs over 23,000 alleged downloads of some
>>> Sylvester Stallone movie I have never heard of; subpoenas are =
expected to go out this week.
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>>> I thought that there might be some interest in the list of these =
addresses :
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>>> =
http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/threatlevel/2011/05/expendibleipaddresse=
s.pdf
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>>> If you have IP addresses on this list, expect to receive papers =
shortly.
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>>> Here is more of the backstory :
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>>> http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/05/biggest-bittorrent-case/
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>>> This is turning into quite a legal racket (get order $ 3000 for =
sending a threatening letter); I expect to see a lot
>>> more of this until some sense returns to the legal system.
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> Attempts a bit like this have come unstuck in the UK. Search for =
"Davenport Lyons" and "ACS Law"
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> Roland Perry
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