[140347] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: 23,000 IP addresses
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Leigh Porter)
Tue May 10 10:01:05 2011
From: "Leigh Porter" <leigh.porter@ukbroadband.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.61.1105100929530.4318@soloth.lewis.org>
Date: Tue, 10 May 2011 14:42:57 +0100
To: "Jon Lewis" <jlewis@lewis.org>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
So are they basing this on you downloading it or on making it available fo=
r others?
Apologies for the top post...
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Leigh Porter
On 10 May 2011, at 14:40, "Jon Lewis" <jlewis@lewis.org> wrote:
> On Tue, 10 May 2011, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
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>> A Federal Judge has decided to let the "U.S. Copyright Group" subpoena =
ISPs over 23,000 alleged downloads of some
>> Sylvester Stallone movie I have never heard of; subpoenas are expected =
to go out this week.
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>> I thought that there might be some interest in the list of these addres=
ses :
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>> http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/threatlevel/2011/05/expendibleipaddre=
sses.pdf
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> It wasn't that good a movie, so I guess they need to squeeze every bit o=
f $ they can out of anyone who saw it. I bought it a a Blockbuster liquid=
ation sale (having not seen it previously).
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>> http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/05/biggest-bittorrent-case/
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>> This is turning into quite a legal racket (get order $ 3000 for sending=
a threatening letter); I expect to see a lot
>> more of this until some sense returns to the legal system.
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> I wonder how things go if you challenge them in court. This is surely a=
topic for another list, but it seems to me it'd be fairly difficult to pr=
ove unless they downloaded part of the movie from your IP and verified tha=
t what they got really was a part of the movie. If they're going after an=
y IP that connected to and downloaded from an agent of the studio (and tha=
ts what it sounds like) who hosted the file, can they really expect to pro=
secute people for downloading something they were giving away?
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> Wouldn't that be like the RIAA making bootleg copies of audio CDs, givin=
g them away, and then prosecuting anyone who accepted one?
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