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Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jay Ashworth)
Wed May 4 18:23:11 2011

Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 18:20:38 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com>
To: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
In-Reply-To: <911B68EEC3D257279F760DCA@mac-pro.magehandbook.com>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Daniel Staal" <DStaal@usa.net>

> --As of May 4, 2011 5:43:04 PM -0400, Jay Ashworth is alleged to have
> said:
> > You know what would make this work *well*? If IAPs *didn't include mcast
> > traffic in your cap*. Since the reason for their caps is, in the final
> > analysis *to limit THEIR transit costs*, multicast would seem to be a
> > really good means toward that end, unless my final analysis is
> >  contradicted by something better justified and documented...
> >
> > This would turn multicast into a Consumer-pull technology.
> 
> Assuming that is the actual reason for traffic caps, instead of just the
> stated reason. In many cases it seems like traffic caps are being rolled
> out in an effort to stymie the streaming-content services (Hulu, Youtube,
> etc.) that compete with the ISP's other business of selling TV/Cable
> service.
> 
> If that is the case, multicast is just a way for the services the ISPs are
> trying to interfere with to lower their costs and increase their quality.
> So not including that traffic in their cap is the last thing they would
> want to do.

Sure.  What better way to expose them for that?  :-)

No business is entitled to protection of its business model.

Cheers,
-- jra


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