[140074] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jared Mauch)
Fri Apr 29 20:46:26 2011
From: Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net>
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTinKPOg0FgHNuShzn-MB2aWL5WcgzA@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 20:46:22 -0400
To: Tim Durack <tdurack@gmail.com>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Apr 29, 2011, at 4:40 PM, Tim Durack wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 3:11 PM, Joel Jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com> =
wrote:
>> On 4/29/11 10:12 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
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>> It turns out that as a content provider you can unicast video =
delivery
>> without coordinating the admission of your content onto every edge
>> eyeball network on the planet. It's cheap enough that it makes money =
on
>> fairly straght-forward internet business models and it apparently =
scales
>> to meet the needs of justin beiber fans.
>>=20
>>=20
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> Imagine: multicast internet radio! Awesome!
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> I have a feeling streaming is going to stay unicast.
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> Multicast is a great technical solution in search of a good business =
problem.
I think this is sadly the truth. There are some problems that can be =
solved by multicast, but I've seen the number of customer requests for =
v4 multicast go by the wayside over the years. The only people that are =
generally interested are the conference venues for technical things, =
e.g.: RIPE, ARIN/NANOG, APRICOT, etc. =20
Plus, conferences like NANOG have beamed the video back to some other =
site for fanout as well, for both unicast and multicast.
The problems at Layer7 and below are solvable with market forces. =
They're all 8/9 issues, about the content providers wanting to be =
paid-per-subscriber/viewer. They don't want to know how few people are =
actually tuned in at that moment in some cases. I'm sure they want to =
be paid some fraction of that cost that goes to your TV Transport =
conduit provider.
- Jared
(who buys and downloads shows, and pays nothing for others as they come =
OTA "free")=
