[140036] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: How do you put a TV station on the Mbone? (was: Royal Wedding...)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jay Ashworth)
Fri Apr 29 13:51:51 2011
Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 13:48:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com>
To: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
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----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rubens Kuhl" <rubensk@gmail.com>
> >> Isn't the real problem with global multicast: "How do we ultimately
> >> bill the broadcaster for all that traffic amplification that
> >> happened
> >> *inside* every other AS?" It seems like you'd have to do per-packet
> >> accounting at every router, and coordinate billing/reporting
> >> amongst
> >> all providers that saw those packets.
>
> Broadcast encrypted streams. Unicast the key distribution, allowing
> interested parties to count, bill, block, allow, litigate, agree...
And that's the snap answer, yes. But the *load*, while admittedly
lessened over unicast, falls *mostly* to the carriers, who cannot anymore
bill for it, either to end users, providers, *or* as transit.
Will they not complain about having their equipment utilization go up
with no recompense -- for something that is only of benefit to commercial
customers of some other entity?
You're effectively pushing the CDN into the backbone, here; no?
Cheers,
-- jra
