[139831] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Comcast's 6to4 Relays
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Wed Apr 20 20:01:03 2011
In-Reply-To: <4DAF4F82.3030201@freedesktop.org>
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 18:55:02 -0500
To: Jim Gettys <jg@freedesktop.org>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
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On Apr 20, 2011, at 4:26 PM, Jim Gettys <jg@freedesktop.org> wrote:
> On 04/20/2011 04:44 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
>>>> The best way to make 6to4 diminish has always been and still remains:
>>>>=20
>>>> Deploy Native IPv6 Now.
>>>>=20
>>>> That's a plan and a necessity at this point, but, execution is still so=
mewhat lagging.
>>>>=20
>>> Of course, Comcast *is* deploying native IPv6; see, for example,
>>> http://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2011-January/031624.html
>>> It just takes a while -- and a non-trivial number of zorkmids -- to
>>> do things like replacing all of the non-v6 CPE.
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> --Steve Bellovin, https://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb
>> Comcast was not the target of my comment... The networks saying Comcast s=
houldn't help the rest of the net by providing open 6to4 relays were the one=
s I was referring to.
>>=20
>> I again applaud Comcast's leadership on IPv6 to the end user, even if the=
y haven't gotten
>> it to me yet. ;-)
>>=20
>=20
> They already have if you can run either 6rd or 6to4 and are a Comcast cust=
omer, even if you didn't happen to know they had. (Though they do plan to t=
urn off the 6rd hack they were using this summer; their native trial and 6to=
4 work well enough to not need yet another transition mechanism).
>=20
I'm already running IPv6 over 6in4 tunnels to my cool routers. 6rd is not an=
improvement.
I'm looking forward to the day when Comcast can deliver straight native IPv6=
to me.
> Their kind offer is to extend availability of their 6to4 relays to others w=
ho aren't even Comcast customers...
>=20
> (Says this reasonably happy participant in Comcast's IPv6 trial; my unhapp=
iness is the state of CPE firmware, not with how well Comcast's end of thing=
s work; I plan to ditch commercial firmware on my home router for OpenWRT mo=
mentarily...)
> - Jim
>=20
>=20
lol... The commercial JunOS on my home gateway seems to be working OK.
Owen
