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Re: Comcast's 6to4 Relays

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Wed Apr 20 08:53:09 2011

In-Reply-To: <20110420022657.6E18311C5@smtp02.zmail.com>
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 08:47:00 -0400
To: Bhoomi Jain <bhoomij@india.com>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>, "Brzozowski,
	John" <John_Brzozowski@Cable.Comcast.com>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

The better solution to that problem is to get additional 6to4 relays deploye=
d closer to India. Perhaps encouraging Tata to take some leadership in that a=
rea, for example.

I do not believe that the opening of the Comcast relays will harm BGP best p=
ath selection for the 6to4 prefix except in rather broken and/or pathologica=
l cases of BGP best path selection. Those cases should be relatively easy to=
 identify and correct locally without preventing Comcast from significantly i=
mproving the 6to4 situation for the areas they serve by opening their relays=
.

I applaud John for his leadership in this area and I think the IPv6 work bei=
ng done by Comcast sets a good example for the community. As a Comcast custo=
mer, praising Comcast does not come easy to me, but, in this area, they are d=
oing excellent things and should be commended.

Owen


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On Apr 19, 2011, at 10:26 PM, Bhoomi Jain <bhoomij@india.com> wrote:

> Mr. John,
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> I thank you for asking the advice of the community.
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> As our colleagues suggest, having 6to4 relays inside the network helps to r=
educe the latency.  Opening up your generous services to a larger Internet c=
ommunity by advertising the 192.88.99.0/24 BGP prefix outside the network co=
uld have extreme and unintended consequences.
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> To give you an idea, a lot of the Internet in India depends on the service=
 of the Tata companies, with international routing coming from Tata Communic=
ations AS 6453.  Announcing 192.88.99.0/24 to 6453 as a customer, I would wo=
rry about its treatment as BGP best-path, in place of closer 6to4 relays.  A=
s you understand, these circuits are very far away, and also very full.  Thi=
s is not something I would recommend.
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> Sincerely,
> Bhoomi Jain
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> At 19 Apr 2011 22:51:24 +0200 (CEST) from "Brzozowski, John" <John_Brzozow=
ski@Cable.Comcast.com>:
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>> Folks,
>> Since deploying our 6to4 relays, Comcast has observed a substantial
>> reduction in the latency associated with the use of 6to4. As such we are
>> contemplating further opening our relays for use by others. The
>> availability of our 6to4 relays should improve the experience of others
>> using 6to4 as a means to access content and services over IPv6.
>> We have been open about our IPv6 activities and wanted to follow suit by
>> reaching out to the community and soliciting feedback before moving
>> forward. As always we wish to continue to advocate and support the
>> universal deployment of IPv6.
>> Please send any comments or questions to the list or if you wish to me
>> directly.
>> John
>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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>> John Jason Brzozowski
>> Comcast Cable
>> e) mailto:john_brzozowski@[cable.comcast.com]
>> o) 609-377-6594
>> m) 484-962-0060
>> w) [http://www.comcast6.net]
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