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Re: IPv4 address exchange

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David Conrad)
Tue Apr 19 15:56:46 2011

From: David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org>
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTikc5BTzAZRf8xx3O_Ui-La0+Wfw8w@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 12:56:22 -0700
To: Jeff Wheeler <jsw@inconcepts.biz>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

Jeff,

On Apr 19, 2011, at 10:19 AM, Jeff Wheeler wrote:
> Are you saying there are people who advocate creating a new ecosystem
> of service providers for supplying several things that the RIRs
> exclusively supply today?

Yes.

> Sign me up.  As a vendor.  I'd love to over-charge for the dead simple
> task of using an API to push DNS delegation updates to the IN-ADDR
> servers, and running a whois server.

My guess is that lacking a monopoly, if you over-charge you won't have =
many customers.

> If you really want WHOIS output
> with a common, unified structure, you can do that.  Bulk access to RIR
> data is available today.

So your solution is for everyone interested in a common database =
structure to download the entirety of all the RIR databases and write =
code to convert the various (changing) formats into a 'common, unified =
structure'?

In any event, such a use would appear to be in violation of ARIN's Bulk =
Whois AUP (According to =
http://www.icann.org/en/correspondence/curran-to-beckstrom-02mar11-en.pdf,=
 ARIN denied bulk whois access for the stated use of "directory =
mirroring").

> Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see how a bunch of different
> entities providing fragmented "post-allocation services" is of any
> benefit.

Some folks find competition in service providers beneficial.

Regards,
-drc



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