[139764] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: IPv4 address exchange
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Curran)
Tue Apr 19 12:36:46 2011
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From: John Curran <jcurran@istaff.org>
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Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 12:36:38 -0400
To: David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
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On Apr 19, 2011, at 12:16 PM, David Conrad wrote:
> However, as far as I can tell, multiple registries isn't what is =
implicitly being proposed. What appears to be eing proposed is =
something a bit like the registry/registrar split, where there is a =
_single_ IPv4 registry and multiple competing 'post-allocation services' =
providers. A single registry with a single database schema and data =
representation would seem to me to be infinitely better than what we =
have now (and what it looks like we're moving towards). I personally =
don't have a strong opinion on the competitive address registrar idea as =
long as there is a consistent set of registration requirements, but in =
my experience (reasonably regulated) competition tends to bring higher =
quality/lower prices vs. monopolies.
Alas, you seem to have better perception skills, since I can't find any =
proposal
containing any of what you outlined above.
>> What we lack is any meaningful proposals on how to restructure the =
Internet
>> number registry system, including what are the goals of doing such, =
how are=20
>> those goals and the existing requirements are met, and what =
protections are=20
>> needed for integrity of the system.
>=20
> Unfortunately, I suspect we are past the time in which a well thought =
out, global consultative action (even assuming an agreeable venue for =
such a consultation can be identified) would result in a plan of action =
before being overtaken by events. There are already two "address =
registrars" and at least 5 (6 if you count IANA) address whois =
databases. I expect there to be more in the future, particularly now =
there is an existence proof that you can sell addresses and the Internet =
doesn't explode.=20
How does transfer of number resources within a region imply additional =
whois
databases?
> Hoever, perhaps I'm being too pessimistic. What venue do you propose =
for a global consultative action to be taken in an open, transparent, an =
unbiased manner?
I've suggested ICANN, IGF, or the RIRs... (I include the last one =
specifically
for Mr. Mueller, since he observed "One comes away with the conviction =
that the=20
so-called bottom up policymaking .. is actually (more or less) seriously =
pursued=20
here." and "I really liked the way nearly all ARIN discussions are in =
plenary and=20
decisions are actually made. "
=
<http://blog.internetgovernance.org/blog/_archives/2010/4/20/4509826.html>=
)
FYI,
/John=
