[139740] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: IPv4 address exchange
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Mon Apr 18 20:25:43 2011
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <A5072EC7-ECC4-440C-989F-6B90F5AF9D36@virtualized.org>
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 17:25:20 -0700
To: David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Apr 18, 2011, at 4:33 PM, David Conrad wrote:
> On Apr 18, 2011, at 4:10 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
>> Yes... See ARIN NRPM 8.3 and Simplified Transfer Listing Service =
(STLS).
>=20
> ARIN allows the listing of non-ARIN blocks on their listing service?
>=20
No. If you're talking about inter-RIR transfers, then, that would be =
subject to draft policy
2011-1 which was reviewed at the recent Public Policy meeting in San =
Juan, PR and
will be discussed by the AC again in May.
> Also, doesn't the Microsoft-Nortel transaction violate NPRM 8.3 in =
that according to the court documents I've seen, Microsoft appears to =
have signed an LRSA (not an RSA as would seem to be required by the NPRM =
and as mentioned on ARIN's press release) and there doesn't appear to be =
anything suggesting Nortel entered into any agreement with ARIN (RSA or =
LRSA, however I will admit I haven't looked too closely)?
>=20
At the request of counsel, I am not going to comment on this. I do not =
have enough data available to me
at this time to make any such judgment one way or the other.
>> If you want to see changes to these, suggest submitting policy via =
ARIN PPML
>> or suggestions via the ARIN Consultation and Suggestion Process =
(ACSP).
>=20
> As far as I can tell, the participants in ARIN's processes are more =
interested in trying to be a regulator than in being a registry. Given =
ARIN is not a government body and it does not have full buy-in from =
those who they would try to regulate, I suspect this will directly =
result in a proliferation of folks like tradeipv4.com, depository.net, =
etc. Unfortunately, I figure this will have negative repercussions for =
network operations (unless someone steps in and provides a definitive =
"address titles registry").
>=20
We have, on multiple occasions agreed to disagree about this, so, it =
should not come as a surprise
that I continue to disagree with you.
Owen
