[139325] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Ping - APAC Region
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Matthew Moyle-Croft)
Sat Apr 2 19:50:01 2011
From: Matthew Moyle-Croft <mmc@internode.com.au>
To: Franck Martin <fmartin@linkedin.com>
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 23:49:05 +0000
In-Reply-To: <C9BE0499.17FD%fmartin@linkedin.com>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
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On 03/04/2011, at 8:42 AM, Franck Martin wrote:
Also remember, you would be serving Australia only from Australia. if I'm
not mistaken, the Australia backbone is more or less volume based
cahrged...
AARNET is the Academic and Research Network, it's not "THE" backbone. (Not=
e: in previous incarnations many years ago it was).
Australia is an island, approximately the same size as continental USA but =
with only about 22M people. It's not really on the way anywhere, so the su=
bmarine capacity is pretty much limited to what is needed to serve Australi=
a.
There exist various submarine cables which go North to Guam and beyond (AJC=
/PPC1) and East from Sydney (SCCN, Endeavour) as well as SMW3 from Perth to=
Singapore. SMW3 is a great path into Singapore, except it's old and capa=
city is limited. Another cable is meant to being built on that path - many=
people have tried, let's hope the next attempt will work. Connecting thes=
e we have really only four sets of land based networks (Telstra, Optus, AAP=
T, NextGen - not all of these have complete coverage and/or rely on others =
for redundancy). We're very like Canada in some ways - small population a=
long and edge (Canada is the US border, we're along the Southern and Easter=
n coasts).
Various providers have capacity on different sets of cables. It's difficu=
lt to generalise as, for instance, some providers use the cable into Asia t=
o provide business customers with good connectivity but don't generalise th=
at to residential customers. The kinds of connectivity at the end of thos=
e cables varies as well.
If you want to get content into Australia then generally to get the best de=
livery:
a) Put it on the West Coast of the USA - LA or San Jose - everyone has good=
connectivity to those places. Look for places you can easily get content=
into AS4637, AS7473/7474, AS4826 and AS4739. AS4648 for NZ and some of AU=
as well. (AS4739 will peer with you there :-) (*)
b) Deliver it domestically in Australia in Sydney. Equinix Sydney is a goo=
d place to start. You can get domestic transit as well as good peering to=
most providers. It's also close to the large population centres on the Ea=
st Coast (SYD, MEL).
c) Failing that - try Japan first, then Hong Kong then Singapore. But you=
will need to combine with a) or b) to give good connectivity to all provid=
ers.
Consider various acceleration things like CDNs - especially LLNW, AKAM and =
EdgeCast who all have delivery capability in AU already.
If anyone has any specific AU questions then I'm happy to try and answer of=
f list. (I work for AS4739 and am responsible for peering and transit so =
have reasonable interest in delivery of content to customers in AU - we're =
keen to have GOOD connectivity).
(*) AS4637 has AS1221 behind it, AS7473 has AS7474 (their customers are in =
AS4804) - they have around 50% of the market together in terms of traffic d=
elivered to the AU market. Tools like peeringdb.com<http://peeringdb.com>=
and bgp.he.net<http://bgp.he.net> will tell you how everyone's connected.
MMC
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Matthew Moyle-Croft
Peering Manager and Team Lead - Commercial and DSLAMs
Internode /Agile
Level 5, 150 Grenfell Street, Adelaide, SA 5000 Australia
Email: mmc@internode.com.au<mailto:mmc@internode.com.au> Web: http://www=
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