[139240] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: HIJACKED: 148.163.0.0/16 -- WTF? Level3 is now doing IP
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Thu Mar 31 02:02:34 2011
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=ex3e1N+BSum-bqNhc9-0v40yP_uC0n4yb2qbY@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 22:57:40 -0700
To: Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists@gmail.com>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>, Brandon Ross <bross@pobox.com>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Mar 30, 2011, at 10:26 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
> It also needs
>=20
> 1. Someone to complain to law enforcement
>=20
True,
> 2. Law enforcement to decide this is something worth following up on
> re prosecution - especially if the crook is not within their
> jurisdiction, it'd be FBI, and they have a minimum threshold for
> damage caused (higher than the few thousand dollars a /16's
> registration fees cost?)
>=20
Not necessarily...
If the crook is in another county, same state, it could be simple =
extradition.
If the crook is across state lines, it could still be handled as an =
extradition,
but, slightly more complicated.
If the crook is on the other side of an international boundary, that's a =
whole
new ball of wax and the number of permutations of regulatory =
combinations
involved prevents any rational enumeration here.
Owen
> [not counting 7.5 million bucks paid in aftermarket deals like
> microsoft from nortel]
>=20
> --srs
>=20
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> wrote:
>> If they put it on letterhead and signed their own name in such a way =
that it purports
>> to be an agent of the organization for which they were not an =
authorized agent, that
>> is usually enough to become a criminal act, whether it is considered =
forgery, fraud,
>> or something else, I'm not sure about the exact technicalities and =
they may vary
>> by jurisdiction.
>=20
>=20
>=20
> --=20
> Suresh Ramasubramanian (ops.lists@gmail.com)