[139237] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: HIJACKED: 148.163.0.0/16 -- WTF? Level3 is now doing IP
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Thu Mar 31 01:17:34 2011
In-Reply-To: <Pine.OSX.4.64.1103310053260.312@cevin-2.local>
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2011 00:15:38 -0500
To: Brandon Ross <bross@pobox.com>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
If they put it on letterhead and signed their own name in such a way that it=
purports
to be an agent of the organization for which they were not an authorized age=
nt, that
is usually enough to become a criminal act, whether it is considered forgery=
, fraud,
or something else, I'm not sure about the exact technicalities and they may v=
ary
by jurisdiction.
Owen
Sent from my iPad
On Mar 30, 2011, at 11:53 PM, Brandon Ross <bross@pobox.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 30 Mar 2011, Ross Harvey wrote:
>=20
>> Wait a second, I'm pretty sure that in most contexts, a signature or
>> letterhead means not so much "this is real because it's so obviously
>> genuine", but rather:
>>=20
>> "This is real or I am willing to take a forgery rap".
>=20
> Do you think most providers check the signer's ID to make sure they actual=
ly signed their own name? How do you prove that whomever you accuse of sign=
ing it actually forged it if not?
>=20
> Does anyone know of there ever being even a single case where someone was c=
onvicted of forgery for this?
>=20
> --=20
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