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Re: AGIS Signing up New Spammers

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jay R. Ashworth)
Fri Nov 21 10:09:57 1997

Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 10:03:24 -0500
From: "Jay R. Ashworth" <jra@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us>
To: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19971120200842.006f1738@zeus.geo.net>; from "Kent W. England" <kwe@geo.net> on Thu, Nov 20, 1997 at 08:08:42PM -0800

On Thu, Nov 20, 1997 at 08:08:42PM -0800, Kent W. England wrote:
> If you decide to block spam because it violates a standard for email
> headers and subscription policy, then you are not controlling content, only
> the proper addressing and routing of messages. If someone sets up a
> subscription mail list, solicits subscribers, and then sends out "make
> money fast" messages, that is not spam.
> 
> This is where Jack Rickard is wrong in his defense of Phil Lawlor. Jack
> thinks that Phil is on the high moral ground when he says he cannot filter
> based on content, but that is wrong-headed. Spam is a theft of service
> issue related to the rules for the transfer of email and according to these
> rules, Lawlor and AGIS deserve to be crucified. Of course, AGIS should not
> filter based on content, but they should enforce rules for the proper
> addressing and delivery of email and the proper management of
> subscriber-initiated subscription to mailing lists. They should enforce
> this on their customers instead of trying to get them to follow some high
> minded collective nonsense-speak, all the while taking their dirty money.

Ok, well, Jack's known to be reading here... comments, O Editor
Rotundus?

Cheers,
-- jr 'PSm Kent: I agree' a
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