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Re: Regional AS model

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Patrick W. Gilmore)
Sun Mar 27 02:54:47 2011

From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>
In-Reply-To: <93D0AFA5-A57F-48B3-9F1B-7EDD32D920A3@delong.com>
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 02:53:54 -0400
To: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
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On Mar 25, 2011, at 3:33 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:

>> Single AS worldwide is fine with or without a backbone.
>>=20
> Only if you want to make use of ugly ugly BGP hacks on your routers, =
or, you don't care about Site A being
> able to hear announcements from Site B.

You are highly confused.

Accepting default is not ugly, especially if you don't even have a =
backbone connecting your sites.  And even if we could argue over =
default's aesthetic qualities (which, honestly, I don't see how we can), =
there is no rational person who would consider it a hack.

You really should stop trying to correct the error you made in your =
first post.  Remember the old adage about when you find yourself in a =
hole.

Another thing to note is the people who actually run multiple discrete =
network nodes posting here all said it was fine to use a single AS.  One =
even said the additional overhead of managing multiple ASes would be =
more trouble than it is worth, and I have to agree with that statement.  =
Put another way, there is objective, empirical evidence that it works.

In response, you have some nebulous "ugly" comment.  I submit your =
argument is, at best, lacking sufficient definition to be considered =
useful.

--=20
TTFN,
patrick



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