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Re: Creating an IPv6 addressing plan for end users

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Nathalie Trenaman)
Thu Mar 24 04:06:56 2011

From: Nathalie Trenaman <nathalie@ripe.net>
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimdpJXo7xrB6UwfAPB3XAN+hER+e4tEBeephk3R@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2011 09:06:44 +0100
To: Liudvikas Bukys <Liudy@bukys.org>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

Hi Liudvikas,

Thank you very much for your feedback.=20

On Mar 23, 2011, at 4:56 PM, Liudvikas Bukys wrote:

> Hi, I saw your document "Preparing an IPv6 Addressing Plan" after its =
URL was posted to NANOG.
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> I have one small comment that perhaps you would consider in future =
revisions:
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> The use of decimal numbers coded in hexadecimal is introduced in =
section 3.2, "Direct Link Between IPv4 and IPv6 Addresses", without =
discussion.  It's also implicit in section 4.9 when encoding decimal =
VLAN numbers in hexadecimal address ranges.
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> My opinion is that this may be a source of confusion, and should be =
explicitly described somewhere before section 3.2, as a deliberate =
implementation choice that makes it easier for human operators to =
configure and recognize deliberately-chosen mappings between decimals in =
IPv4 addresses and integers and corresponding fields in hexadecimal =
address ranges.

You are right, we could explain this section in more detail and we have =
received this feedback from some other readers as well. We will take =
this into account for future revision.=20

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> Without an explicit discussion, this point may be missed by some =
readers -- especially since this is a training document.
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> Just my opinion!
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> I'm also curious as to whether this describes the way the world has =
already settled on, or whether this is a novel, controversial, or =
only-occasonally-observed technique.  I see that RFC 5963 - IPv6 =
Deployment in Internet Exchange Points (IXPs) of August 2010 does =
mention BCD encoding of both ASNs and IPV4 digits, so I guess it's not =
that novel.

As I'm not the author of the document - only the initiator of the =
translation - I'm not sure if I'm the right person to answer this =
question :) However, I do think it is an interesting discussion on how =
far "the world has already settled on" different IPv6 implementation =
techniques. There are relatively only a few mature operational IPv6 =
implementations at the moment and the intention of this document is to =
have people think of a structure for their address plan and give them =
some pointers.=20

In case you would like to know more of the background of this document, =
please talk to Sander Steffann (the author). I'm sure he will be happy =
to answer your questions.

Kind regards,

Nathalie Trenaman
RIPE NCC Trainer

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> =20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Nathalie Trenaman [mailto:nathalie@ripe.net]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 5:05 AM
> > To: nanog@nanog.org
> > Subject: Creating an IPv6 addressing plan for end users
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > In our IPv6 courses, we often get the question: I give my customers =
a
> > /48 (or a /56 or a /52) but they have no idea how to distribute that
> > space in their network.
> > In December Sander Steffann and Surfnet wrote a manual explaining
> > exactly that, in clear language with nice graphics. A very useful
> > document but it was in Dutch, so RIPE NCC decided to translate that
> > document to English.
> >
> > Yesterday, we have published that document on our website and we =
hope
> > this document is able to take away some of the fear that end users =
seem
> > to have for these huge blocks.
> > You can find this document here:
> >
> > http://bit.ly/IPv6addrplan (PDF)
> >
> > I look forward to your feedback, tips and comments.
> >
> > With kind regards,
> >
> > Nathalie Trenaman
> > RIPE NCC Trainer
> >
> >
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