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From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> In-Reply-To: <7903C248-FD54-41C5-959E-AA055BD31FE9@oitc.com> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2011 08:35:03 -0700 To: TR Shaw <tshaw@oitc.com> Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org> Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org On Mar 18, 2011, at 4:03 PM, TR Shaw wrote: >=20 > On Mar 18, 2011, at 6:49 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: >=20 >>=20 >> On Mar 18, 2011, at 2:11 PM, Jeroen van Aart wrote: >>=20 >>>> This is not uncommon practice. I agree with you that it's = undesirable, but, it's not uncommon >>>> among the access networks. >>>=20 >>> I guess it's ok to expect a small fee when your consumer grade = internet connection gets a static IP. Given that many large ISPs force = you to get a business account if you want a static IP, and a higher = price. >>>=20 >> I think both practices are relatively despicable, but, widespread = enough that perhaps I am in the minority. >> Hopefully this will get better in IPv6. >>=20 >=20 > Owen, >=20 > I doubt it will get better. Lots are into nickle and dime'ing for = everyone to get an extra buck. Look at wireless, they charge for x = Mega/giga bits per month from your hand help device (phone). Oh you want = to tether, that will be more? Say what? Bits are bits but somehow = tethered bits are different. Oh, its cause we can pretend and charge = more for them.... >=20 > Tom >=20 Well... Let's see: Verizon: $20/month for unlimited data service on iPhone 4 (without = tethering) AT&T: $29.95/month for unlimited data service on my iPad SPRINT: 4G Unlimited Everything plan: $127.45/month (all taxes, fees, = handset insurance, etc. included) (3G $10/month less) Metro: $40/month for unlimited talk/text/web Where's the $/mbytes/month in those prices? Yes, they are now trying to charge more for tethering. I think the additional charges for tethering are because tethered tends = to use significantly more bandwidth on average than non-tethered. I agree that charging for = tethering is also somewhat despicable and I haven't added tethering to my plan for that reason. Rumor has it that there is now a tethering app. out for Droid that will = bypass the $/tethering issue. I haven't tried it yet. Owen
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