[138718] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Why does abuse handling take so long ?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Andrew Kirch)
Sun Mar 13 11:37:43 2011
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 11:36:36 -0400
From: Andrew Kirch <trelane@trelane.net>
To: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1103130535250.13814@sasami.anime.net>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On 3/13/2011 8:39 AM, goemon@anime.net wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Mar 2011, Alexander Maassen wrote:
>> Why o why are isp's and hosters so ignorant in dealing with such issues
>> and act like they do not care?
>
> they don't act like they do not care. they really *don't* care. no
> acting.
>
> 1) you're not a direct customer, why should they do anything? by doing
> nothing it cost them nothing.
> 2) why should they do anything to shut down paying customers? shutting
> down abusive customers is shutting off revenue sources.
> 3) lifting a finger is too much like work. it costs the money and
> gains them nothing.
>
> the only way to correct this behavior is to make it more expensive for
> providers to retain abusive customers than it is to keep them.
>
Is it time for another "notion of self-defense" in responding
to/retaliating against a DDoS attack of sufficient strength to hold down
a large network, or resource?
Andrew
