[138431] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: IPv4 address shortage? Really?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Warren Kumari)
Mon Mar 7 21:46:55 2011
From: Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net>
In-Reply-To: <20110308014809.53CD0BD1629@drugs.dv.isc.org>
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 21:46:47 -0500
To: Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Mar 7, 2011, at 8:48 PM, Mark Andrews wrote:
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> This has been thought of before, discussed and rejected.
But has this: =
http://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-terrell-math-quant-ternary-logic-of-binary-=
sys-12.txt ?
Please read and explain *exactly* why it doesn't work...
W
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> In message <1299498200.29652.40.camel@kotti.kotovnik.com>, Vadim =
Antonov writes
> :
>> I'm wondering (and that shows that I have nothing better to do at =
3:30am
>> on Monday...) how many people around here realize that the plain old
>> IPv4 - as widely implemented and specified in standard RFCs can be
>> easily used to connect pretty much arbitrary number (arbitrary means
>>> 2^256) of computers WITHOUT NETWORK ADDRESS TRANSLATION. Yes, you =
hear
>> me right.
>>=20
>> And, no, it does not require any changes any in the global routing
>> infrastructure - as implemented now, and most OS kernels (those which
>> aren't broken-as-designed, grin) would do the trick just fine. None =
of
>> that dual-stack stupidity, and, of course, no chicken-and-egg problem =
if
>> the servers and gateways can be made to respect really old and
>> well-established standards.
>>=20
>> DNS and most applications would need some (fairly trivial) updating,
>> though, to work properly with the extended addressing; and sysadmins
>> would need to do tweaks in their configs since some mythology-driven
>> "security" can get in the way. But they don't have to do that en =
mass
>> and all at once.
>>=20
>> The most obvious solution to the non-problem of address space =
shortage
>> is the hardest to notice, ain't it?
>>=20
>> --vadim
>>=20
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> --=20
> Mark Andrews, ISC
> 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia
> PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: marka@isc.org
W
PS: :-) <doh! ROT13 fails to be interesting on punctuation.... >
