[138269] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: IPv6? Why, you are the first one to ask for it!
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Frank Bulk)
Wed Mar 2 01:00:51 2011
From: "Frank Bulk" <frnkblk@iname.com>
To: "'-Hammer-'" <bhmccie@gmail.com>, "'Franck Martin'" <franck@genius.com>,
"'George Bonser'" <gbonser@seven.com>
In-Reply-To: <01f001cbd86f$2bc79260$8356b720$@com>
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 00:00:47 -0600
Cc: 'NANOG list' <nanog@nanog.org>
Reply-To: frnkblk@iname.com
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
I'm extremely annoyed by the marketing PR of those professional service =
arms when their transit/service provide business doesn't have IPv6 fully =
deployed. Please have your own house in order first, or be more humble =
about your services, please.
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: -Hammer- [mailto:bhmccie@gmail.com]=20
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 6:17 PM
To: 'Franck Martin'; 'George Bonser'
Cc: 'NANOG list'
Subject: RE: IPv6? Why, you are the first one to ask for it!
I don't know about that.=20
Even though the carriers (USA) I've talked to are having trouble =
presenting native IPv6 to me in the next few quarters, they have no =
problem pitching professional services to help me with the =
implementation. Several of my hardware vendors have too. Don't be =
surprised at all to see this presented to senior management as a new =
revenue stream. "Helping the inept prepare for tomorrow".=20
=20
-Hammer-
=20
"I was a normal American nerd."
-Jack Herer
-----Original Message-----
From: Franck Martin [mailto:franck@genius.com]=20
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 3:17 PM
To: George Bonser
Cc: NANOG list
Subject: Re: IPv6? Why, you are the first one to ask for it!
Don't forget there is no commission for the salesperson to enable IPv6 =
for you, so definitively they are not interested and you asking them to =
deal with the issue, will just lower their pay at the end of the month =
because they could not use this valuable time to find customers with =
commissions...
----- Original Message -----
> From: "George Bonser" <gbonser@seven.com>
> To: "NANOG list" <nanog@nanog.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, 1 March, 2011 9:39:33 AM
> Subject: IPv6? Why, you are the first one to ask for it!
> Fairly major global network provider likes to call themselves a "Tier
> 1". Asking about native IPv6 in one of their colo facilities in the
> UK.
> They say their US facilities won't be v6 capable until Q4 2011. The UK
> rep acted like it was the first he'd ever heard of it and implied we
> were the very first to ask for it.
>=20
> Note to providers: That might have worked a couple of years ago but
> when we hear that today, we know it is false. Please be honest in your
> responses to that question. If you aren't going to deploy it for
> another year or two, just say so. The notion that we are the very
> first
> ones to ever ask for it from a global provider in a major country is
> just lame.
>=20
> George
