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Re: Mac OS X 10.7, still no DHCPv6

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Joel Jaeggli)
Tue Mar 1 00:43:44 2011

Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2011 21:43:35 -0800
From: Joel Jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com>
To: "Dobbins, Roland" <rdobbins@arbor.net>
In-Reply-To: <7D231284-D15A-4482-8F05-71E65FBDD5F0@arbor.net>
Cc: nanog group <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org

On 2/28/11 9:34 PM, Dobbins, Roland wrote:
> 
> On Mar 1, 2011, at 12:23 PM, Mark Newton wrote:
> 
>> That's new, and (to my mind) threatening.  We've not even begun to
>> consider the attack vectors that'll open up.

given that rfc 3041 had it's 10th birthday in january there's nothing
new about any of this.

> 
> I don't think it's new at all, given the amount of information
> available today that you already cite, down to and including sniffing
> on toxic hotel networks and the like.
> 
> Folks are already easily pwn3d to extremes - look at HB Gary.  This
> doesn't constitute some huge new attack surface or information
> leakage - especially given the existence of VPNs/proxies, the
> tendency to store more and more data/apps on servers/in 'the cloud',
> and so forth.
> 
> In fact, the device one is actually using at any given moment and
> where one is located when using said device is becoming less and less
> relevant.
> 
>> From a physical-security standpoint, leaky IM, SMTP headers, et.
>> al. already give the game away.
> 
> We've been living in this situation for years.  Nothing about EUI-64
> changes this fact, IMHO.  I dislike it immensely, but it isn't a
> game-changer, IMHO.
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> 
Roland Dobbins <rdobbins@arbor.net> // <http://www.arbornetworks.com>
> 
> The basis of optimism is sheer terror.
> 
> -- Oscar Wilde
> 
> 
> 



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