[138054] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Mac OS X 10.7, still no DHCPv6
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Joel Jaeggli)
Sun Feb 27 18:26:13 2011
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 15:25:13 -0800
From: Joel Jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com>
To: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <CA58D5C5-3826-4DA8-BCC6-5057AB912D5C@delong.com>
Cc: Chuck Anderson <cra@WPI.EDU>, I2 IPv6 working group <wg-ipv6@internet2.edu>,
nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On 2/27/11 3:17 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
>
> On Feb 27, 2011, at 2:39 PM, Mark Andrews wrote:
>
>>
>> In message <20110227204511.GM27578@virtual.bogons.net>, Simon Lockhart writes:
>>> On Mon Feb 28, 2011 at 07:22:08AM +1100, Mark Andrews wrote:
>>>>> This is often required for legislation compliance. DHCP does this well.
>>>>
>>>> Does it really matter what address a customer has as long as it comes from
>>>> the /64, /56 or /48 assigned to them?
>>>
>>> You are assuming an access technology that lends itself to subnet-per-custome
>>> r.
>>>
>>> I run a network with 50,000+ end users using ethernet-based access to the
>>> user's room. In IPv4, I run 1 or more subnets per building (depending on the
>>> number of rooms in the build). I use DHCP to assign IPs, and record the
>>> DHCP assignments allow me to trace users in the event of abuse complaints. I
>>> use DHCP Option82 to allow me to correlate multiple devices in a user's room.
>>> I feed the DHCP information into my bandwidth management platform to enforce
>>> different levels (i.e. speeds) of service per user depending on what they've
>>> purchased.
>>>
>>> I have yet to come up with a viable solution to do all of the above in IPv6
>>> without using DHCPv6. At the moment, that means that OSX users are not going
>>> to get IPv6.
>>
>> Have you *asked* your vendors for a alternate solution?
>>
>> DHCP kills privacy addresses.
>
> In many environments, this is a feature, not a bug.
>
>> DHCP kills CGAs.
>>
> In many environments, this is a feature, not a bug.
>
> I would, in fact, posit that some of the people complaining about the lack of
> DHCP are doing so precisely because of a desire to kill these things in their
> environment.
which is fine they just have to kill of their legacy software
deployments while they're at it.
> Owen
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>
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