[138052] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Mac OS X 10.7, still no DHCPv6
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Sun Feb 27 18:20:15 2011
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <20110227223924.DF0E3B0E741@drugs.dv.isc.org>
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2011 15:17:06 -0800
To: Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org>
Cc: Chuck Anderson <cra@WPI.EDU>, I2 IPv6 working group <wg-ipv6@internet2.edu>,
nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
On Feb 27, 2011, at 2:39 PM, Mark Andrews wrote:
>=20
> In message <20110227204511.GM27578@virtual.bogons.net>, Simon Lockhart =
writes:
>> On Mon Feb 28, 2011 at 07:22:08AM +1100, Mark Andrews wrote:
>>>> This is often required for legislation compliance. DHCP does this =
well.
>>>=20
>>> Does it really matter what address a customer has as long as it =
comes from
>>> the /64, /56 or /48 assigned to them?
>>=20
>> You are assuming an access technology that lends itself to =
subnet-per-custome
>> r.
>>=20
>> I run a network with 50,000+ end users using ethernet-based access to =
the
>> user's room. In IPv4, I run 1 or more subnets per building (depending =
on the=20
>> number of rooms in the build). I use DHCP to assign IPs, and record =
the=20
>> DHCP assignments allow me to trace users in the event of abuse =
complaints. I
>> use DHCP Option82 to allow me to correlate multiple devices in a =
user's room.
>> I feed the DHCP information into my bandwidth management platform to =
enforce
>> different levels (i.e. speeds) of service per user depending on what =
they've
>> purchased.
>>=20
>> I have yet to come up with a viable solution to do all of the above =
in IPv6
>> without using DHCPv6. At the moment, that means that OSX users are =
not going
>> to get IPv6.
>=20
> Have you *asked* your vendors for a alternate solution?
>=20
> DHCP kills privacy addresses.
In many environments, this is a feature, not a bug.
> DHCP kills CGAs.
>=20
In many environments, this is a feature, not a bug.
I would, in fact, posit that some of the people complaining about the =
lack of
DHCP are doing so precisely because of a desire to kill these things in =
their
environment.
Owen
