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RE: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Dan Wing)
Mon Feb 21 15:38:08 2011
From: "Dan Wing" <dwing@cisco.com>
To: "'Chris Grundemann'" <cgrundemann@gmail.com>,
"'Benson Schliesser'" <bensons@queuefull.net>
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikq-PAW+Jgzqeh9vNFMnHZXSo0SA3kakZPPMQfy@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2011 12:37:50 -0800
Cc: 'NANOG list' <nanog@nanog.org>, 'ARIN-PPML List' <arin-ppml@arin.net>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
> -----Original Message-----
> From: arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net [mailto:arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net] =
On
> Behalf Of Chris Grundemann
> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 5:55 PM
> To: Benson Schliesser
> Cc: NANOG list; ARIN-PPML List
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] NAT444 rumors (was Re: Looking for an IPv6
> naysayer...)
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> On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 14:17, Benson Schliesser
> <bensons@queuefull.net> wrote:
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> > If you have more experience (not including rumors) that suggests
> otherwise, I'd very much like to hear about it. =A0I'm open to the
> possibility that NAT444 breaks stuff - that feels right in my gut - =
but
> I haven't found any valid evidence of this.
>=20
> In case you have not already found this:
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-donley-nat444-impacts-01
That document conflates problems of NAT444 with problems of NAT44=20
with problems of bandwidth starvation with problems of CGN.
For details, see my comments at
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/behave/current/msg09027.html
and see Reinaldo Penno's comments at
http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/behave/current/msg09030.html
-d
> Cheers,
> ~Chris
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> >
> > Regardless, I think we can agree that IPv6 is the way to avoid NAT-
> related growing pains. =A0We've known this for a long time.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > -Benson
> >
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